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Letter #5786

Alfonso de VALDÉS to Ioannes DANTISCUS
[Brussels?], [1531, autumn?]

English register:

Valdés discusses the details of the dinner planned in Dantiscus’ garden for the next day – he informs Dantiscus that he will be there himself, as well as Barrensis [Esteban Gabriel Merino?], while Cobos(?) has made the excuse that the limits of moderation are always exceeded at Dantiscus’, while he prefers to do this eating meat and not fish.




Manuscript sources:
1copy in Latin, 18th-century, BK, 222, No. 48, p. 190 (c.p. 2)
2copy in Latin, 18th-century, BCz, 40 (TN), No. 254, p. 984 (c.p. 1)
3lost fair copy in Latin, AAWO, AB, D.130, No. 28

Auxiliary sources:
1register in Polish, 20th-century, B. PAU-PAN, 8250 (TK 12), f. 623
2register in English, 20th-century, CBKUL, R.III, 31, No. 302.28

Prints:
1DE VOCHT 1961 No. DE, 55, p. 37 (reference)
2CEID 2/3 (Letter No. 56) p. 257-258 (in extenso; English register; Polish register)

 

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Egi apud probably Esteban Gabriel Merino (*1472 – †1535), correspondent and defender of Erasmus of Rotterdam; Dantiscus dedicated to him his propaganda booklet Victoria Serenissimi Poloniae Regis contra Vayevodam Muldaviae (first edition Leuven, 1531); 1513-1530 Archbishop of Bari, 1516-1523 Bishop of León, 1523-1535 Bishop of Jaén, from 1526 member of the Council of State of Emperor Charles V and diplomat in his service, 1530-1535 Patriarch of the West Indies, 1533 elevated to cardinal in the consistory of February 21, 1533, received the red hat and the title of S. Vitale on March 3, 1533 (MIRANDA, http://www2.fiu.edu/~mirandas/bios1533.htm)Barrensemprobably Esteban Gabriel Merino (*1472 – †1535), correspondent and defender of Erasmus of Rotterdam; Dantiscus dedicated to him his propaganda booklet Victoria Serenissimi Poloniae Regis contra Vayevodam Muldaviae (first edition Leuven, 1531); 1513-1530 Archbishop of Bari, 1516-1523 Bishop of León, 1523-1535 Bishop of Jaén, from 1526 member of the Council of State of Emperor Charles V and diplomat in his service, 1530-1535 Patriarch of the West Indies, 1533 elevated to cardinal in the consistory of February 21, 1533, received the red hat and the title of S. Vitale on March 3, 1533 (MIRANDA, http://www2.fiu.edu/~mirandas/bios1533.htm) et probably Francisco de los Cobos y Molina (*ca. 1477 – †1547), Andalucian nobleman born into the disadvantaged family of Diego de los Cobos, regent of Úbeda, and Catalina de Molina; 1503 scribe at the chancellery of Queen Isabella I of Castile; 1507 Treasurer of Granada; 1508 Regent for Úbeda, 1516 secretary to Charles I of Spain (later Emperor Charles V), Comendador for the Kingdom of Castile (KENISTON)Couum ms. Conum(!) CouumCouum ms. Conum(!) probably Francisco de los Cobos y Molina (*ca. 1477 – †1547), Andalucian nobleman born into the disadvantaged family of Diego de los Cobos, regent of Úbeda, and Catalina de Molina; 1503 scribe at the chancellery of Queen Isabella I of Castile; 1507 Treasurer of Granada; 1508 Regent for Úbeda, 1516 secretary to Charles I of Spain (later Emperor Charles V), Comendador for the Kingdom of Castile (KENISTON), ut cras in horto tuo pranderent. probably Esteban Gabriel Merino (*1472 – †1535), correspondent and defender of Erasmus of Rotterdam; Dantiscus dedicated to him his propaganda booklet Victoria Serenissimi Poloniae Regis contra Vayevodam Muldaviae (first edition Leuven, 1531); 1513-1530 Archbishop of Bari, 1516-1523 Bishop of León, 1523-1535 Bishop of Jaén, from 1526 member of the Council of State of Emperor Charles V and diplomat in his service, 1530-1535 Patriarch of the West Indies, 1533 elevated to cardinal in the consistory of February 21, 1533, received the red hat and the title of S. Vitale on March 3, 1533 (MIRANDA, http://www2.fiu.edu/~mirandas/bios1533.htm)Barrensisprobably Esteban Gabriel Merino (*1472 – †1535), correspondent and defender of Erasmus of Rotterdam; Dantiscus dedicated to him his propaganda booklet Victoria Serenissimi Poloniae Regis contra Vayevodam Muldaviae (first edition Leuven, 1531); 1513-1530 Archbishop of Bari, 1516-1523 Bishop of León, 1523-1535 Bishop of Jaén, from 1526 member of the Council of State of Emperor Charles V and diplomat in his service, 1530-1535 Patriarch of the West Indies, 1533 elevated to cardinal in the consistory of February 21, 1533, received the red hat and the title of S. Vitale on March 3, 1533 (MIRANDA, http://www2.fiu.edu/~mirandas/bios1533.htm) venturus est, probably Francisco de los Cobos y Molina (*ca. 1477 – †1547), Andalucian nobleman born into the disadvantaged family of Diego de los Cobos, regent of Úbeda, and Catalina de Molina; 1503 scribe at the chancellery of Queen Isabella I of Castile; 1507 Treasurer of Granada; 1508 Regent for Úbeda, 1516 secretary to Charles I of Spain (later Emperor Charles V), Comendador for the Kingdom of Castile (KENISTON)Couus ms. Conus(!) CouusCouus ms. Conus(!) probably Francisco de los Cobos y Molina (*ca. 1477 – †1547), Andalucian nobleman born into the disadvantaged family of Diego de los Cobos, regent of Úbeda, and Catalina de Molina; 1503 scribe at the chancellery of Queen Isabella I of Castile; 1507 Treasurer of Granada; 1508 Regent for Úbeda, 1516 secretary to Charles I of Spain (later Emperor Charles V), Comendador for the Kingdom of Castile (KENISTON) autem ait fieri non posse, quin apud te sobrietatis solitae fines transgrediatur idque mavult cum carnibus quam cum piscibus fiat. Dabimus operam, ut hospites ms 2 nobiscum,
ms 1 nobis
nobiscumms 2 nobiscum,
ms 1 nobis
ms 1 (si fieri potest),
ms 2 si fieri potest
(si fieri potest)ms 1 (si fieri potest),
ms 2 si fieri potest
adducamus, sin autem, ipsi veniemus.

Vale.