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Letter #1721

Ioannes DANTISCUS to Tiedemann GIESE
Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-09-24

English register: Dantiscus encloses the letters he received the previous day from Cracow (from Jan Chojeński) and from Rome from Dietrich von Rheden, for Giese’s perusal. Dantiscus informs Giese that the king is returning to Cracow on September 24. He hopes this will facilitate their further actions (on formal issues concerning the succession in the Warmia and Chełmno bishoprics). He asks Giese to send him the proper formulations of the letters that the king will send to Rome, as soon as possible – when he receives them, he will send them to Cracow immediately. Dantiscus advises Giese to write a letter to the king thanking him for the appointment to the Chełmno bishopric and asking him to entrust further actions in this matter to the Cracow bishop (Jan Chojeński), and also to write to the Cracow bishop thanking him for his goodwill to date and asking that it continue. Dantiscus does not dare to refuse Chojeński’s request that he resign from the Warmia canonry in favor of Stanisław Hozjusz – he asks Giese for his advice. He thinks Alexander Sculteti (who tried to obtain this canonry for his cousin) will find Chojeński a tough adversary. Dantiscus wants Giese to inform him of the date of his arrival in Lubawa. In view of the great costs both of them will have to bear when arranging the formalities in Rome, Dantiscus asks Giese whether there is a practice whereby an elected or postulated bishop can use the income of his future bishopric before the papal confirmation.
            received 1537-09-25

Manuscript sources:
1fair copy in Latin, autograph, address in secretary's hand, BCz, 244, p. 239-242
2office copy in Latin, in secretary's hand, BCz, 244, p. 261 (t.p.)

Auxiliary sources:
1register in Polish, 20th-century, B. PAU-PAN, 8248 (TK 10), f. 588

Prints:
1CEID 1/1 No. 35, p. 232-234 (in extenso; English register)

 

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BCz, 244, p. 242

Reverendissimo Domino Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊Tidemanno GiseTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ electo Culmensi et custodi ac canonico Varmiensi, Fratri et Amico carissimo et observan(do) or observan(dissimo)⌈observan(do)observan(do) or observan(dissimo)⌉

BCz, 244, p. 239

Reverendissime mi Domine, Frater et Amice carissime atque observan(de) or observan(dissime)⌈observan(de)observan(de) or observan(dissime)⌉. Salutem cum omnis felicitatis accessu, fraternique amoris commendatione.

1537-09-23⌊Heri1537-09-23⌋, postquam puerum Dominationis Vestrae Reverendissimae a me dimisissem, in ipsa meridie mihi adiunctae istae litterae ex Cracow (Kraków, Cracovia), city in southern Poland, Małopolska, on the Vistula river, from 1038 capital of the Kingdom of Poland⌊CracoviaCracow (Kraków, Cracovia), city in southern Poland, Małopolska, on the Vistula river, from 1038 capital of the Kingdom of Poland⌋ et Rome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌊urbe Ro(ma) or Ro(mana)⌈Ro(ma)Ro(ma) or Ro(mana)⌉Rome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌋[1] redditae sunt. Ex quibus coadiutoriae negotium et alia, quae venerabilis dominus Dietrich von Rheden (Teodoryk Reden) (*1492 – †1556), doctor of both canon and civil law. Rheden spent most of his life in Rome where he was dealing with, among other things, the affairs of the Ermland Chapter; 1532-1551 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); Canon of Mainz and Lübeck; in 1551 he was appointed Bishop of Lübeck, but he did not accept the dignity (KOPICZKO 2, p. 263; SBKW, p. 200)⌊Theodericus de RhedenDietrich von Rheden (Teodoryk Reden) (*1492 – †1556), doctor of both canon and civil law. Rheden spent most of his life in Rome where he was dealing with, among other things, the affairs of the Ermland Chapter; 1532-1551 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); Canon of Mainz and Lübeck; in 1551 he was appointed Bishop of Lübeck, but he did not accept the dignity (KOPICZKO 2, p. 263; SBKW, p. 200)⌋ facienda consulit, intelliget et quid rebus nostris expedire possit, dispiciet. Ceterum, cum hodie, quemadmodum Jan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌊reverendissimus dominus Cracoviensis episcopusJan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌋ scribit, Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊maiestas regiaSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋ Cracow (Kraków, Cracovia), city in southern Poland, Małopolska, on the Vistula river, from 1038 capital of the Kingdom of Poland⌊CracoviamCracow (Kraków, Cracovia), city in southern Poland, Małopolska, on the Vistula river, from 1038 capital of the Kingdom of Poland⌋ feliciter ingredi debeat, res nostras tractandi maiorem, quam prius, habebimus commoditatem. Ut igitur Dominatio Vestra Reverendissima omnia litterarum pro nobis regiarum ad Rome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌊urbemRome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌋ exempla diligenter conscribat et ad me ocissime mittat, rogo, quibus habitis cf. Adagia 1526 No. 3522 E vestigio ⌊e vestigiocf. Adagia 1526 No. 3522 E vestigio ⌋ nuntium meum Cracow (Kraków, Cracovia), city in southern Poland, Małopolska, on the Vistula river, from 1038 capital of the Kingdom of Poland⌊CracoviamCracow (Kraków, Cracovia), city in southern Poland, Małopolska, on the Vistula river, from 1038 capital of the Kingdom of Poland⌋ proficisci iubebo. Neque abs re mihi visum est consultum, quod Dominatio Vestra Reverendissima litteris suis Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊maiestati regiaeSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋, iuxta quod in scheda a me legit, gratias pro prioris suae voluntatis confirmatione habeat, rogando, ut id, quod reliquum est, litteras scilicet praesentationis et commendatitias, ad Rome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌊urbemRome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌋ Jan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌊reverendissimo domino episcopo CracoviensiJan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌋ committat. Ipsi etiam Jan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌊reverendissimo CracoviensiJan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌋ a Dominatione Vestra Reverendissima esset scribendum. Praesto est argumentum de diligentia pro Dominatione Vestra Reverendissima habendae gratiae et, ut coeptam benevolentiam prosequatur, rogandum etc.

Marcin Wolski, coat-of-arms Półkozic (†1548), 1519-1542 Cracow burgrave; 1525-1547 court treasurer; 1528-1538 Crown standard-bearer; 1531 starosta of Błonie and Zakroczym; 1537-1548 royal chamberlain (Urzędnicy 10, p. 214)⌊Cubicularium regiumMarcin Wolski, coat-of-arms Półkozic (†1548), 1519-1542 Cracow burgrave; 1525-1547 court treasurer; 1528-1538 Crown standard-bearer; 1531 starosta of Błonie and Zakroczym; 1537-1548 royal chamberlain (Urzędnicy 10, p. 214)⌋ hinc primum dimittam, nuntium meum, quousque omnia a Dominatione Vestra habeam, retinebo.

Jan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌊Reverendissimo domino CracoviensiJan Chojeński (*1486 – †1538), 1523 royal secretary, 1526-1537 Grand Secretary; 1531-1535 Bishop of Przemyśl, 1535-1537 Bishop of Płock, 1537-1538 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1538 Grand Chancellor of the Crown (WYCZAŃSKI 1990, p. 248-249; PSB 3, p. 396-399)⌋ id, quod a me petit pro Stanisław Hozjusz (Stanisław Hosz, Stanislaus Hosius) (*1504 – †1579), diplomat and theologian; 1534-1538 secretary to the Bishops of Cracow Piotr Tomicki and Jan Chojeński; 1538-1549 royal secretary; 1538-1549 Canon of Ermland (Warmia) and from 1539 Cantor; 1540-1550 Canon of Cracow; 1549-1551 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1551-1579 Bishop of Ermland; in 1560 elevated to Cardinal; 1561-1563 Papal Legate to the General Council of Trent; in 1573 appointed Grand Penitentiary to Pope Gregory XIII (SBKW, p. 95-96; KOPICZKO 2, p. 129-130)⌊HosioStanisław Hozjusz (Stanisław Hosz, Stanislaus Hosius) (*1504 – †1579), diplomat and theologian; 1534-1538 secretary to the Bishops of Cracow Piotr Tomicki and Jan Chojeński; 1538-1549 royal secretary; 1538-1549 Canon of Ermland (Warmia) and from 1539 Cantor; 1540-1550 Canon of Cracow; 1549-1551 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1551-1579 Bishop of Ermland; in 1560 elevated to Cardinal; 1561-1563 Papal Legate to the General Council of Trent; in 1573 appointed Grand Penitentiary to Pope Gregory XIII (SBKW, p. 95-96; KOPICZKO 2, p. 129-130)⌋, negare non ausim. Videat nunc Alexander Sculteti (Scholtcze) (*ca. 1485 – †1570), doctor of canon law, cartographer, historian and friend of Copernicus; accused by Dantiscus and Stanisław Hozjusz (Hosius) of Sacramentarian heresy, in 1540 banished by King Sigismund I Jagiellon; in 1541 imprisoned by the Inquisition in Rome; after release from prison in 1544 he stayed in Rome for the rest of his life; 1509-1516 notary at the Roman Curia; 1519-1541 Canon of Ermland (Warmia), 1530-1539 Chancellor of the Ermland Chapter; 1536-1538 administrator of the komornictwo of Mehlsack (Melzak, today Pieniężno) (KOPICZKO 2, p. 299; SBKW, p. 219-220)⌊venerabilis dominus AlexanderAlexander Sculteti (Scholtcze) (*ca. 1485 – †1570), doctor of canon law, cartographer, historian and friend of Copernicus; accused by Dantiscus and Stanisław Hozjusz (Hosius) of Sacramentarian heresy, in 1540 banished by King Sigismund I Jagiellon; in 1541 imprisoned by the Inquisition in Rome; after release from prison in 1544 he stayed in Rome for the rest of his life; 1509-1516 notary at the Roman Curia; 1519-1541 Canon of Ermland (Warmia), 1530-1539 Chancellor of the Ermland Chapter; 1536-1538 administrator of the komornictwo of Mehlsack (Melzak, today Pieniężno) (KOPICZKO 2, p. 299; SBKW, p. 219-220)⌋[2], cum quo ei erit negotium. Peto tamen nihilominus, quomodo me in eo gerere debeam, a Dominatione Vestra Reverendissima consilium etc.

Si et quando ad me Dominatio Vestra Reverendissima ventura est, faciat me paulo ante adventum certiorem, rescribatque mihi, si in usu est apud ecclesiam nostram, quod electus seu postulatus ante confirmationem Paul III (Alessandro Farnese) (*1468 – †1549), 1493 elevated to cardinal; 1524 Cardinal-Bishop of Ostia; 1534-1549 Pope⌊pontificisPaul III (Alessandro Farnese) (*1468 – †1549), 1493 elevated to cardinal; 1524 Cardinal-Bishop of Ostia; 1534-1549 Pope⌋ bonis mensae episcopalis uti possit, quo sciam temporius, quomodo de pecuniis ad Rome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌊urbemRome (Roma), city in central Italy, on the Tiber river, seat of the Holy See⌋ mittendis sit agendum[3]. Expecto in iis omnibus resolutionem a Dominatione Vestra Reverendissima, quam felicissime ac diutissime valere opto.

[1] On September 23, Dantiscus received letters from Cracow from Jan Chojeński (cf. Jan CHOJEŃSKI to Ioannes DANTISCUS Cracow, 1537-09-16, CIDTC IDL 3606⌊orig. BCz, 1595, p. 841-844cf. Jan CHOJEŃSKI to Ioannes DANTISCUS Cracow, 1537-09-16, CIDTC IDL 3606⌋), from Stanisław Hozjusz (cf. Stanisław HOZJUSZ (HOSIUS) to Ioannes DANTISCUS Cracow, 1537-09-16, CIDTC IDL 1715⌊orig. AAWO, D.19, No. 9, print HE, No. 31, p. 50-51cf. Stanisław HOZJUSZ (HOSIUS) to Ioannes DANTISCUS Cracow, 1537-09-16, CIDTC IDL 1715⌋) and from Rome from Dietrich von Rheden (cf. Dietrich von RHEDEN to Ioannes DANTISCUS Rome, 1537-08-25, CIDTC IDL 1692⌊orig. BK, 230, p. 9-10cf. Dietrich von RHEDEN to Ioannes DANTISCUS Rome, 1537-08-25, CIDTC IDL 1692⌋).

[2] At the time, Alexander Sculteti was trying to obtain the Warmia canonry for his nephew Alexander von Suchten (cf. e.g. Alexander Sculteti’s letter to Dantiscus of September 8, 1537 (cf. Alexander SCULTETI to Ioannes DANTISCUS Frauenburg (Frombork), 1537-09-08, CIDTC IDL 1705⌊orig. BK, 230, p.31-32cf. Alexander SCULTETI to Ioannes DANTISCUS Frauenburg (Frombork), 1537-09-08, CIDTC IDL 1705⌋).

[3] Fees for church benefices – annates – were introduced in 1316 by Pope John XXII. The beneficiary’s formal pledge to pay the annates was the necessary condition of receiving a provision bulla for the new office. Starting from the Council of Constance (1414-1418), annates from higher-ranking benefices were to be paid in two annual installments at the Apostolic Camera in Rome. The amount of annates was specified for every benefice, though information was also gathered about the actual situation of each beneficiary and analyzed at the consistory during which the provision was to be settled, and this is doubtless where Dantiscus saw a chance for reducing the fee (cf. Dudziak; further references there). Applications for a reduction to the fee seem to have been widespread at the time, as shown, for example, by the Polish episcopate’s letters to the pope in 1537 (cf. VMPL , No. DLXXX, DLXXXI, p. 520-523). See also letters of Dantiscus cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Dietrich von RHEDEN Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1775⌊to Dietrich von Rheden, Lubawa, September 16, 1537cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Dietrich von RHEDEN Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1775⌋, cf. Ioannes DANTISCUS to Tiedemann GIESE Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-09-28, CIDTC IDL 1728⌊to Chełmno bishop elect Tidemann Giese, Lubawa, September 28, 1537cf. Ioannes DANTISCUS to Tiedemann GIESE Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-09-28, CIDTC IDL 1728⌋, cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Johann TYMMERMANN] Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-10-19, CIDTC IDL 1749⌊to Warmia canon Ioannes Tymmermann, Lubawa, October 19, 1537cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Johann TYMMERMANN] Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-10-19, CIDTC IDL 1749⌋, cf. Ioannes DANTISCUS to [Tiedemann GIESE] Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-03, CIDTC IDL 1762⌊to Chełmno bishop elect Tidemann Giese, Lubawa, November 3, 1537cf. Ioannes DANTISCUS to [Tiedemann GIESE] Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-03, CIDTC IDL 1762⌋, cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Dietrich von RHEDEN Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1775⌊to Warmia canon Dietrich von Rheden, Lubawa 16, 1537cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Dietrich von RHEDEN Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1775⌋, cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Jan CHOJEŃSKI] Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1788⌊to Grand Chancellor, Cracow bishop Jan Chojeński, Lubawa, November 16, 1537cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Jan CHOJEŃSKI] Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1788⌋, cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Antonio PUCCI Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1778⌊to cardinal of Pistoria Antonio Pucci, protector of the Kingdom of Poland, Lubawa, November 16, 1537cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Antonio PUCCI Löbau (Lubawa), 1537-11-16, CIDTC IDL 1778⌋.