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Letter #377

Ioannes DANTISCUS to Mercurino Arborio di GATTINARA
Paredes de Nava, 1527-10-07

English register:

Dantiscus asks Gattinara to forgive him for not accompanying him during his official arrival to Palencia three days before. It was due to the ban issued by the emperor [caused by the danger of the plague]. The Polish envoy observed the chancellor’s arrival from afar and felt like a proscribed exile. He thinks the emperor’s ban is unfair and unjustified, and views it as a slight on the ruler he represents as an envoy. He wonders if it is he who has lost the emperor’s favor for some unknown reason, or if Charles V no longer considers the king of Poland his friend even though the king recently signed a treaty with the emperor’s brother [Archduke Ferdinand].

Dantiscus is happy that the chancellor was well received by the emperor and the court milieu, but warns him not to trust flatterers too much. He hopes the emperor will act more sensibly than he has before. He regrets he was not present during Gattinara’s witty conversation with Lalemand about beards being an attribute of good people.

He asks for information when the emperor plans to leave Palencia. He asks if he will be allowed to follow the court.




Manuscript sources:
1rough draft in Latin, autograph, AAWO, AB, D. 66, f. 153r
2copy in Latin, 20th-century, B. PAU-PAN, 8241 (TK 3), a.1527, f. 47-48

Prints:
1CEID 2/3 (Supplement Letter No. 79) p. 310-312 (in extenso; English register; Polish register)

 

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Illustris et Magnifice Domine. Commendationem plurimam.

1527-10-04⌊Nudius tertius1527-10-04⌋, cum Excellentia Tua iuncta aliis, qui eam honoris causa comitabantur, Palencia, city in central Spain, Castile and León, 22 km N of Valladolid, from the 11th century the seat of a bishopric, it flourished economically in the 14th-16th centuries⌊PalenciamPalencia, city in central Spain, Castile and León, 22 km N of Valladolid, from the 11th century the seat of a bishopric, it flourished economically in the 14th-16th centuries⌋ intraret, et ego sequebar a longe, cumque iam essem ad istiusmodi ingressum proximus, ne mecum tota societas contaminaretur, quo mandatis Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊caesareae maiestatisCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ satisfieret, ab introitu me continui, sicque circa muros obequitans non sine animi maerore multa inter eundum mecum reputans, Paredes de Nava, village in central Spain, Castile and León, 20 km NW of Palencia⌊hucParedes de Nava, village in central Spain, Castile and León, 20 km NW of Palencia⌋ in exilium proscriptus, diverti. Quod certe huic cf. Sen. Cl. 1.1.6 Nemo enim potest personam diu ferre, ficta cito in naturam suam recidunt ⌊personae, quam ferocf. Sen. Cl. 1.1.6 Nemo enim potest personam diu ferre, ficta cito in naturam suam recidunt ⌋, regiae non potest esse non ignominiosum, praesertim cum neque iusta causa subsit, ob quam ab aula arceor scurris alias et inferioribus hominibus non interdictam, ut ne amicos quidem in ea invisere liberum fuerit neque me quisque etiam ut usu receptum est ubique ob crimen exilio dignum condemnavit vocabiturque haec causa aliquando in dubium ut illa Ovid (Publius Ovidius Naso) (*43 BC – †17 or 18 AD), ancient Roman poet⌊OvidiiOvid (Publius Ovidius Naso) (*43 BC – †17 or 18 AD), ancient Roman poet⌋ , de qua adhuc est quaestio, cur extorris apud The Scythians (Scythae) ⌊ScythasThe Scythians (Scythae) ⌋ egerit. Neque scio, si propter Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊regem meumSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋ Paredes de Nava, village in central Spain, Castile and León, 20 km NW of Palencia⌊hucParedes de Nava, village in central Spain, Castile and León, 20 km NW of Palencia⌋ relegatus sum, quod semper Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊maiestatem caesareamCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ summa benevolentia et observantia sit prosecutus et quod cum Ferdinand I of Habsburg (*1503 – †1564), from 1521 Archduke of Austria, from 1526 King of Bohemia and Hungary, Croatia and Slavonia as Ferdinand I, 1531-1558 King of the Romans, 1558-1564 Holy Roman Emperor; son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile, a younger brother of Charles V of Habsburg⌊fratreFerdinand I of Habsburg (*1503 – †1564), from 1521 Archduke of Austria, from 1526 King of Bohemia and Hungary, Croatia and Slavonia as Ferdinand I, 1531-1558 King of the Romans, 1558-1564 Holy Roman Emperor; son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile, a younger brother of Charles V of Habsburg⌋ eius nuper foedus novum et arctum percusserit, vel si ego promeruerim, qui semper fui caesareus , quod iam ter in Spain (Hispania)⌊HispaniasSpain (Hispania)⌋ missus et novissime non semel indignis modis affectus triennium hic transegerim. Utcumque fit, non fit sine meo magno dolore et dedecore cf. Sen. Cl. 1.1.6 Nemo enim potest personam diu ferre, ficta cito in naturam suam recidunt ⌊personae, quam in hac tragoedia repraesento.cf. Sen. Cl. 1.1.6 Nemo enim potest personam diu ferre, ficta cito in naturam suam recidunt ⌋ Dabit igitur Excellentia Tua veniam, si propensioni meae, qua honoris causa in Palencia, city in central Spain, Castile and León, 22 km N of Valladolid, from the 11th century the seat of a bishopric, it flourished economically in the 14th-16th centuries⌊PalenciamPalencia, city in central Spain, Castile and León, 22 km N of Valladolid, from the 11th century the seat of a bishopric, it flourished economically in the 14th-16th centuries⌋ comes esse volui, non satisfecerim, oportet enim me hic plus oboedire Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊caesariCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋, quam mihi, quam vel dignitati meae , quae ad hunc modum tractatur. Sed de iis hactenus.

Gratum mihi est summopere quod adeo honorificus in Tuam Excellentiam Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊caesarCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ fuerit et tam humaniter in colloquium admiserit. Det Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊eiCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ Deus clariorem intellectum, cf. Vulg. Ez 12. 2 qui oculos habent ad videndum et non vident / et aures ad audiendum et non audiunt ⌊ut videns videat, et audiens audiatcf. Vulg. Ez 12. 2 qui oculos habent ad videndum et non vident / et aures ad audiendum et non audiunt ⌋. Neque mihi minus gratum fuit responsum Tuae Excellentiae, quod de barba sua Jean Lalemand (Ioannes Alemanus) (*1470 – †1560), friend of Erasmus of Rotterdam, adherent of Charles de Lannoy, Viceroy of Naples, personal enemy of Alfonso de Valdés, whom he charged with Lutheranism on the basis of his work "Dialogo de las cosas ocurridas en Roma"; secretary to Charles V, in December 1528 accused of betrayal and imprisoned, never regained the Emperor's favour⌊Ioanni LalemantJean Lalemand (Ioannes Alemanus) (*1470 – †1560), friend of Erasmus of Rotterdam, adherent of Charles de Lannoy, Viceroy of Naples, personal enemy of Alfonso de Valdés, whom he charged with Lutheranism on the basis of his work "Dialogo de las cosas ocurridas en Roma"; secretary to Charles V, in December 1528 accused of betrayal and imprisoned, never regained the Emperor's favour⌋ dedisse fertur, utpote se boni viri nutrivisse barbam, innuens in barbam illius, quae nihil umquam istiusmodi habuit. Cuperem et ego adesse, si liceret, spectator vultuum compositorum, qui blande toties tibi arridebunt cum felle praecordia madeant. Tu vero plus quam Odysseus (Ulysses, Ulixes), mythical Greek king of Ithaca, hero of the Homer's epic poems Ilias and Odyssey, renown of his sagacity and cunning⌊UlixesOdysseus (Ulysses, Ulixes), mythical Greek king of Ithaca, hero of the Homer's epic poems Ilias and Odyssey, renown of his sagacity and cunning⌋ in hac tam probata aetate et prudentia ab istis Sirens figures in Greek mythology, half-women, half-birds, they used to seduce the sailors with their beautiful voice in order to kill them⌊SyrenibusSirens figures in Greek mythology, half-women, half-birds, they used to seduce the sailors with their beautiful voice in order to kill them⌋, quas superioribus diebus praeternavigasti incorruptus, non capieris. Non est Tuae Excellentiae incognitum hoc Graecum adagium cf. Pl. Aul. 195 altera manu fert lapidem, panem ostentat altera ⌊una manu panem altera lapidemcf. Pl. Aul. 195 altera manu fert lapidem, panem ostentat altera ⌋.

Velim fieri certior quando Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊maiestas caesareaCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ ex Palencia, city in central Spain, Castile and León, 22 km N of Valladolid, from the 11th century the seat of a bishopric, it flourished economically in the 14th-16th centuries⌊PalenciaPalencia, city in central Spain, Castile and León, 22 km N of Valladolid, from the 11th century the seat of a bishopric, it flourished economically in the 14th-16th centuries⌋ solvet, et si illam sequi licebit nec ne, cum iam Paredes de Nava, village in central Spain, Castile and León, 20 km NW of Palencia⌊hicParedes de Nava, village in central Spain, Castile and León, 20 km NW of Palencia⌋ in istis pulveribus, ut reor, satis poenarum dederim, ne si me in hoc luto pluviae offendent , exitus occludatur.

Quod reliquum est, me Tuae Excellentiae commendo atque dedo et rogo in suorum me numero habere non dedignetur.