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Letter #80

Cornelis DE SCHEPPER to Ioannes DANTISCUS
[Brussels?], [1531-02-22 — 1531-03-03]

English register:

Dantiscus should inform the Count of Nassau that, the day before, De Schepper had an interview with the Emperor [Charles V], who expressed his dissatisfaction with De Schepper's approach to the issue of a group of new Christians in Antwerp. De Schepper's view concerning their wealth is confirmed by information of the bankers. De Schepper insisted that he acted correctly when informing the members of the Privy Council before taking action. He refuted the arguments of the Emperor concerning their intention to export possessions [to Turkey]. He denied that he could make any profit from his action. The Emperor maintained his position. He prefers that all Jews should leave his territories and move on to Turkey.

De Schepper urges Dantiscus to ask the Count of Nassau to advocate his case with the Emperor, and to inform him of the true facts. If possible he asks for a similar intervention by the Cardinal [Prince-Bishop of Liège Erard de la Marck?].




Manuscript sources:
1fair copy in Latin, autograph, AAWO, AB, D. 6, f. 124
2register with excerpt in Latin, English, 20th-century, CBKUL, R.III, 31, No. 376

Auxiliary sources:
1register in German, 20th-century, B. PAU-PAN, 8250 (TK 12), f. 616

Prints:
1DE VOCHT 1961 No. DE, 110, p. 65-66 (English register)
2CEID 2/2 (Letter No. 24) p. 136-138 (in extenso; English register)

 

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Respondi, antequam aliquid inciperem, verum esse me praemonuisse non eum solum, sed alios consilii privati,[1] et plurima talia. Tandem dixit auditum esse ingens emolumentum inde secuturum orig. sequuturumsecuturumsecuturum orig. sequuturum. Ubi esset id? Respondi me non potuisse quicquam capere, cum non haberem mandata pro hac patria. In summa noluit credere multos esse, qui transierint, neque persuaderi potuit, quod bona aveherent. Velle se omnem terram suam The Jews IudaeisThe Jews spoliatam esse et, quod omnes essent apud The Ottoman Turks (Turcae) TurcasThe Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ,[2] se non timere The Jews IudaeosThe Jews . Magis a falsis Christianis et The Jews IudaeisThe Jews timoris esse.

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[1] The Privy Council of the Habsburg Netherlands.

[2] Some of the Jews that were expelled from Portugal first tried to settle in Antwerp, and later on to emigrate to Turkey via Italy (DI LEONE LEONI, p. 13-15; SERVANTIE).