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Letter #3876

[Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Łukasz GÓRKA]
Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warmiński), 1539-08-01

English register:

Dantiscus comes to the defence of the Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno) [Tiedemann Giese], who was recently sharply reprimanded in a letter from the Archbishop of Gniezno [Jan Latalski] for disobedience and evading his jurisdiction. The Archbishop threatened he would inform on Giese to the King [Sigismund I Jagiellon]. Meanwhile, according to the bull of confirmation that Dantiscus received when he was taking over the Kulm diocese, the bishops of Kulm are subordinate to the archbishop of Riga. Giese is happy to leave the Archbishop of Riga [Thomas Schöning] if the Pope [Paul III] should so decide, but according to Dantiscus it is not possible to do so sooner without causing great confusion. Dantiscus asks the addressee to justify and defend Giese before the King.

From Giese’s letter the addressee will learn of the violence he suffered from [the gentry of] Dobrzyń Land (Ziemia Dobrzyńska) and [Kulm Land (Ziemia Chełmińska)] (nostratibus in iurisdictione sua). He also asks for advice and for support for Giese on this matter at the royal court.




Manuscript sources:
1office copy in Latin, in secretary's hand, AAWO, AB, D. 7, f. 99v (b.p.), 104r

Prints:
1CEID 1/2 No. 84, p. 288-290 (in extenso; English register)

 

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Reverendissime in Christo Pater ac Illustris Domine, domine mi observandissime.

Salutem et obsequiorum meorum plurimam commendationem.

Dedit ad me reverendissimus dominus Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊episcopus CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ eas litteras, quas ex novissima Peterkoviensi sinodo reverendissimus dominus Jan Latalski (*1463 – †1540), brother of Janusz Latalski, Voivode of Poznań; 1495-1525 Canon of Poznań, 1498-1505 Chancellor to Elizabeth of Austria, Queen of Poland; 1500-1525 Provost of the Gniezno Chapter, 1503-1525 Provost of the Cracow Chapter, 1504-1524 royal secretary, 1523-1525 Provost at the Poznań Chapter, 1525-1536 Bishop of Poznań, 1536-1537 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1540 Archbishop of Gniezno (PSB 16, p. 562)⌊archiepiscopusJan Latalski (*1463 – †1540), brother of Janusz Latalski, Voivode of Poznań; 1495-1525 Canon of Poznań, 1498-1505 Chancellor to Elizabeth of Austria, Queen of Poland; 1500-1525 Provost of the Gniezno Chapter, 1503-1525 Provost of the Cracow Chapter, 1504-1524 royal secretary, 1523-1525 Provost at the Poznań Chapter, 1525-1536 Bishop of Poznań, 1536-1537 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1540 Archbishop of Gniezno (PSB 16, p. 562)⌋ scripsit. Quae revera duriores quam oportuit in coepiscopum mihi videbantur. Non potui itaque mihi temperare, quin saltem iis de rebus pro mutua inter nos fiducia Illustrem et Reverendissimam Dominationem Vestram amicissime commonerem, ut qui certus sum et manifesto cognovi, quantum Reverendissima et Illustris Dominatio Vestra Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimum dominum CulmensemTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ diligat, quanti eius virtutem eruditionemque non vulgarem faciat. Dolenter quidem accepi, quod Jan Latalski (*1463 – †1540), brother of Janusz Latalski, Voivode of Poznań; 1495-1525 Canon of Poznań, 1498-1505 Chancellor to Elizabeth of Austria, Queen of Poland; 1500-1525 Provost of the Gniezno Chapter, 1503-1525 Provost of the Cracow Chapter, 1504-1524 royal secretary, 1523-1525 Provost at the Poznań Chapter, 1525-1536 Bishop of Poznań, 1536-1537 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1540 Archbishop of Gniezno (PSB 16, p. 562)⌊reverendissimus dominus GnesnensisJan Latalski (*1463 – †1540), brother of Janusz Latalski, Voivode of Poznań; 1495-1525 Canon of Poznań, 1498-1505 Chancellor to Elizabeth of Austria, Queen of Poland; 1500-1525 Provost of the Gniezno Chapter, 1503-1525 Provost of the Cracow Chapter, 1504-1524 royal secretary, 1523-1525 Provost at the Poznań Chapter, 1525-1536 Bishop of Poznań, 1536-1537 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1540 Archbishop of Gniezno (PSB 16, p. 562)⌋ adeo aperte minetur se Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimum dominum CulmensemTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ quasi inoboedientem et iurisdictioni suae reluctantem serenissimae Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊maiestati regiaeSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋ delaturum. Quod si fecerit, non fieri potest sine summa{m} etiam Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimi domini CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ iniuria, quandoquidem quomodo negotium hoc suffraganeatus habeat, non est mihi incognitum.

Cum ipse essem Culmensis, Holy See (Sedes Apostolica) ⌊Sedes ApostolicaHoly See (Sedes Apostolica) ⌋ in bullis suis confirmationis me reverendissimo domino Thomas Schöning (†1539), 1528-1539 Archbishop of Riga (ADB, Bd. 32, p. 312-313)⌊archiepiscopo RigensiThomas Schöning (†1539), 1528-1539 Archbishop of Riga (ADB, Bd. 32, p. 312-313)⌋ addixit et inscripsit, quod et huic post me factum est. Non est [itaque], cur Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊eumTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ accusare vel serenissimae Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊maiestati regiaeSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋ deferre d[ebeat] Jan Latalski (*1463 – †1540), brother of Janusz Latalski, Voivode of Poznań; 1495-1525 Canon of Poznań, 1498-1505 Chancellor to Elizabeth of Austria, Queen of Poland; 1500-1525 Provost of the Gniezno Chapter, 1503-1525 Provost of the Cracow Chapter, 1504-1524 royal secretary, 1523-1525 Provost at the Poznań Chapter, 1525-1536 Bishop of Poznań, 1536-1537 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1540 Archbishop of Gniezno (PSB 16, p. 562)⌊reverendissimus dominus GnesnensisJan Latalski (*1463 – †1540), brother of Janusz Latalski, Voivode of Poznań; 1495-1525 Canon of Poznań, 1498-1505 Chancellor to Elizabeth of Austria, Queen of Poland; 1500-1525 Provost of the Gniezno Chapter, 1503-1525 Provost of the Cracow Chapter, 1504-1524 royal secretary, 1523-1525 Provost at the Poznań Chapter, 1525-1536 Bishop of Poznań, 1536-1537 Bishop of Cracow, 1537-1540 Archbishop of Gniezno (PSB 16, p. 562)⌋, quod sibi subiciat Paul III (Alessandro Farnese) (*1468 – †1549), 1493 elevated to cardinal; 1524 Cardinal-Bishop of Ostia; 1534-1549 Pope⌊Romanus pontifexPaul III (Alessandro Farnese) (*1468 – †1549), 1493 elevated to cardinal; 1524 Cardinal-Bishop of Ostia; 1534-1549 Pope⌋ Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊domin[um] CulmensemTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋, [ut is] non gravate Thomas Schöning (†1539), 1528-1539 Archbishop of Riga (ADB, Bd. 32, p. 312-313)⌊RigensemThomas Schöning (†1539), 1528-1539 Archbishop of Riga (ADB, Bd. 32, p. 312-313)⌋ desereret. Priusquam hoc fiat, non video, quomodo absque multis turbationibus Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊dominus CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ Thomas Schöning (†1539), 1528-1539 Archbishop of Riga (ADB, Bd. 32, p. 312-313)⌊metropolitanum suumThomas Schöning (†1539), 1528-1539 Archbishop of Riga (ADB, Bd. 32, p. 312-313)⌋ relinquere alterique adhaerere possit.

Ut igitur Reverendissima et Illustris Dominatio Vestra pro sua in utrumque benevolentia partes Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimi domini CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ suscipiat et eum contra eiusmodi insimulationes coram serenissima Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊maiestate regiaSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋, et quosvis alios excuset et tueatur quam diligentissime, oro et obsecro, scio enim, cuius nostri sint in aula animi, qui plus ad bonorum virorum, ubi possunt, destructionem quam aedificationem intendunt. Id ipsum non mihi solum, verum etiam et Reverendissimae Illustrique Dominationi Vestrae non est incognitum. Sat sapienti.

Quod si hanc, ut mihi certo persuadeo, pro persona Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimi domini CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ Reverendissima et Illustris Dominatio Vestra defensionem ac amicam curam susceperit, quod dicitur cf. Cic. Fam. 7.29.2 Sed, amice magne, noli hanc epistulam Attico ostendere: sine eum errare et putare me virum bonum esse nec solere duo parietes de eadem fidelia dealbare. ⌊una fidelia duos dealbabit parietescf. Cic. Fam. 7.29.2 Sed, amice magne, noli hanc epistulam Attico ostendere: sine eum errare et putare me virum bonum esse nec solere duo parietes de eadem fidelia dealbare. ⌋ meque et illum devinctissimum sibi reddet in omnibus.

Ceterum, cum messenger of Ioannes DANTISCUS ⌊nuntiomessenger of Ioannes DANTISCUS ⌋ sive manibus, quae tum se offerebant et quae ex re et usu esse videbantur, Reverendissimae et Illustri Dominationi Vestrae scripsi, in eaque, qua tunc, adhuc persto sententia. Observantiam in se et propensionem meam Reverendissima et Illustris Dominatio Vestra boni consulat. Cuius amori et benevolentiae me intime commendo.

Postscript:

Quae Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimus dominus CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ hic pauloante ex Dobrzyń Land (terra Dobrinensis, Ziemia Dobrzyńska), region in northern Poland, W of Masovia, on the east bank of the Vistula river⌊terra DobrinensiDobrzyń Land (terra Dobrinensis, Ziemia Dobrzyńska), region in northern Poland, W of Masovia, on the east bank of the Vistula river⌋ et a nostratibus in iurisdi<c>tione sua[1] per illatas violentias sustinuit, ex eius litteris Reverendissima et Illustris Dominatio Vestra abunde intelliget. Quam summopere rogo, ut illi apud Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌊maiestatem regiamSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria⌋ et ubi opus esse censuerit patrocinio suo adesse velit. Quod una mecum Tiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌊reverendissimus dominus CulmensisTiedemann Giese (Tidemannus Gisius) (*1480 – †1550), in 1519 ennobled by King Sigismund I; 1504-1538 Canon of Ermland (Warmia); 1516-1527, 1533-1537 Judicial Vicar and Vicar General of Ermland; 1523-1538 Custos of Ermland; 1537-1549 Bishop of Kulm (Chełmno); 1549-1550 Bishop of Ermland (BORAWSKA 1984, passim)⌋ studiosissime promereri curabit sedulo.

Datae ut in litteris, festinante calamo.

[1 ] nostratibus in iurisdictione sua - here: the Prussian nobility living in the Kulm Land (terra Culmensis, Ziemia Chełmińska), region historical region in central-northern Poland; part of Royal Prussia⌊Kulm LandKulm Land (terra Culmensis, Ziemia Chełmińska), region historical region in central-northern Poland; part of Royal Prussia⌋, cf. cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Sigismund I Jagiellon Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warmiński), 1539-08-01, CIDTC IDL 3878⌊IDL 3878cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to Sigismund I Jagiellon Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warmiński), 1539-08-01, CIDTC IDL 3878⌋ and cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Samuel MACIEJOWSKI] Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warmiński), [1539-08-01], CIDTC IDL 3872⌊IDL 3872cf. [Ioannes DANTISCUS] to [Samuel MACIEJOWSKI] Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warmiński), [1539-08-01], CIDTC IDL 3872⌋