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Letter #4853

Cornelis DE SCHEPPER to [Ioannes DANTISCUS?]
Regensburg, 1532-08-08

English register:

The original of this letter is lost – only a contemporary excerpt, sent by Dantiscus to Prussian Duke Albrecht von Hohenzollern, is preserved.

De Schepper describes the unexpected support he has been able to obtain from the German towns, especially Nuremberg, Ulm and Augsburg, for the military enterprises of the Emperor [Charles V].

The Turkish threat in the Danube region seems to be decreasing: they have turned back to Styria. The Turkish navy lies before Methoni, the imperial navy in nearby Sicily. The Turks will avoid a confrontation at sea; the imperial forces should be aware of the possibility of Turkish actions on land.

De Schepper boasts about the fighting spirit of the German soldiers, their support for the cause of the Emperor and the military equipment at the disposal of the imperial army.

The Lutherans and other Protestants are regaining their senses. The Lutherans are meeting with the Zwinglians about theological issues. At the moment, the imperial retinue is fully engaged in preparations for war, but when the Emperor renounces a confrontation with the Turks, the fleet can be used for a crossing to Naples, to spend the winter there.




Manuscript sources:
1excerpt in Latin, 16th-century, GStA PK, XX. HA Hist. StA Königsberg, HBA, H, K. 760, No. IV.11.18

Prints:
1CEID 2/2 (Letter No. 46) p. 207-209 (in extenso; English register)

 

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Numquam credebam fore, ut urbes Germanicae tam se exhiberent paratas ad obsequia Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊caesarisCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋, quam se mihi suae maiestatis nomine exhibuerunt. Plura enim, quam petii, obtinui et longe plus, quam debuere, exhibuerunt, videlicet, cum Citizens of Nuremberg ⌊NurenbergensesCitizens of Nuremberg ⌋ obligati essent ad pedites 500, equites 58, misere ad mille; Citizens of Ulm ⌊UlmensesCitizens of Ulm ⌋, cum ad 300, equites 50 exhibuere ad mille et centum pedites lectissimos; Citizens of Augsburg ⌊AugustaniCitizens of Augsburg ⌋ ad 300, pedites miserunt mille. Idem fecerunt et alii, cuius rei ego sum oculatus testis.

Quod ad The Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌊TurcasThe Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌋ attinet, videtur refriguisse impetus ille per Danube (Dunaj, Donau), river in central and eastern Europe⌊DanubiumDanube (Dunaj, Donau), river in central and eastern Europe⌋. Scribit Wolfgang Prantner (Wolfgang Brantner) (†1541), doctor of both canon and civil law, studied in Vienna (1508) and Bologna (1513), where he was a syndic of the German nation; secretary and councillor to Emperor Charles V; 1527 councillor for Carinthian affairs to Roman King Ferdinand I; 1527 coadiutor to the Grand Master of the Order of St. George; 1533 the last Grand Master (CE, vol. 1, p. 191; BERGMANN 1868, p. 173-174)⌊doctor PrantnerusWolfgang Prantner (Wolfgang Brantner) (†1541), doctor of both canon and civil law, studied in Vienna (1508) and Bologna (1513), where he was a syndic of the German nation; secretary and councillor to Emperor Charles V; 1527 councillor for Carinthian affairs to Roman King Ferdinand I; 1527 coadiutor to the Grand Master of the Order of St. George; 1533 the last Grand Master (CE, vol. 1, p. 191; BERGMANN 1868, p. 173-174)⌋ The Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌊eosThe Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌋ converso itinere a Danube (Dunaj, Donau), river in central and eastern Europe⌊DanubioDanube (Dunaj, Donau), river in central and eastern Europe⌋ in Styria (Stiria, Herzogtum Steiermark), duchy in eastcentral Europe, today in southern Austria (Bundesland Steiermark) and northeastern Slovenia⌊StiriamStyria (Stiria, Herzogtum Steiermark), duchy in eastcentral Europe, today in southern Austria (Bundesland Steiermark) and northeastern Slovenia⌋ profectos. The Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌊TurcharumThe Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌋ classis venit Modona (Methoni (Μεθώνη), Modon), city in southwestern Greece, on the Peloponnesian coast, under Ottoman rule from 1500⌊MethonemModona (Methoni (Μεθώνη), Modon), city in southwestern Greece, on the Peloponnesian coast, under Ottoman rule from 1500⌋ Peloponesi, nostra in Sicily, island in the Mediterranean Sea, Kingdom ruled by the Habsburgs⌊SiciliamSicily, island in the Mediterranean Sea, Kingdom ruled by the Habsburgs⌋ vicina ad loca, priorum dicitur esse triremium septuaginta biremium et myoparonum incerti numeri. Id autem pro certissimo habemus minime congressuros nobiscum The Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌊TurchasThe Ottoman Turks (Turcae) ⌋ mari. Quid terra facturi sunt, periculum faciemus!

Non credidissem tam feracem esse militis Germany (Germania, Niemcy)⌊GermaniamGermany (Germania, Niemcy)⌋ et in hoc numero sunt longe plurimi veterani, omnes animati cf. Gel. 9.11 et congrediuntur et consistunt, et conserebantur iam manus ⌊ad congrediendum et conserendas manuscf. Gel. 9.11 et congrediuntur et consistunt, et conserebantur iam manus ⌋. Munitionum bellicarum, bombardarum, pulveris et omnis apparatus plus habemus, quam ego arbitrabar, adeo permulcet animos The Germans ⌊GermanorumThe Germans ⌋ assensus Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊caesarisCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ in tranquillitatem imperii.

The Lutherans ⌊LutheraniThe Lutherans ⌋ et id genus innovatorum incipiunt resipiscere. Followers of Ulrich ZWINGLI ⌊ZwinglianiFollowers of Ulrich ZWINGLI ⌋ in cf. De veritate q.12 a.12 ad 8 Ad octavum dicendum, quod signum, inquantum huiusmodi, est causa cognitionis; signatum vero est id quod est notum per aliud. Sicut autem nobilius cognoscitur id quod in se notum est et alia cognoscere facit, eo quod tantum in se notum est; ita etiam e contrario id quod notum est per se, non per aliud, nobilius cognoscitur quam quod per aliud notum est, sicut principia conclusionibus, et ideo e contrario se habet de signo et signato; unde ratio non sequitur ⌊signo et signatocf. De veritate q.12 a.12 ad 8 Ad octavum dicendum, quod signum, inquantum huiusmodi, est causa cognitionis; signatum vero est id quod est notum per aliud. Sicut autem nobilius cognoscitur id quod in se notum est et alia cognoscere facit, eo quod tantum in se notum est; ita etiam e contrario id quod notum est per se, non per aliud, nobilius cognoscitur quam quod per aliud notum est, sicut principia conclusionibus, et ideo e contrario se habet de signo et signato; unde ratio non sequitur ⌋,[1] ut vocant, convenere cum The Lutherans ⌊LuteranisThe Lutherans ⌋, et de sacramento verbo non est ambiguitas, quid in corde sit, nescio. Omnes sumus in apparatu bellico, forte si visum fuerit Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌊caesariCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile⌋ non sequi Suleiman the Magnificent (*1494 – †1566), 1520-1566 Sultan of the Ottoman Empire⌊TurcamSuleiman the Magnificent (*1494 – †1566), 1520-1566 Sultan of the Ottoman Empire⌋, quod nos remur excursionibus magis quam iusto bello usurum, poterimus hibernare Naples (Napoli, Neapolis), city in Italy, on the coast of the Tyrrhenian Sea, capital of the region of Campania⌊NeapoliNaples (Napoli, Neapolis), city in Italy, on the coast of the Tyrrhenian Sea, capital of the region of Campania⌋.

[1 ] The debate de signo et signato about the presence of Christ in the Eucharist remained a major controversy between the different tendencies within the Reformation (cf. Christoph Lüthy, David Gorlaeus (1591-1612): An Enigmatic Figure in the History of Philosophy and Science, Amsterdam, 2012 ⌊LÜTHYcf. Christoph Lüthy, David Gorlaeus (1591-1612): An Enigmatic Figure in the History of Philosophy and Science, Amsterdam, 2012 ⌋, p. 86-94)