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Letter #2337

Ioannes DANTISCUS to Thomas CRANMER
Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warmiński), 1540-09-01


Manuscript sources:
1fair copy in Latin, autograph, in secretary's hand, author's signature, NAUK, PRO SP 1/163, f. 1-2

Prints:
1CRANMER 1833 No. 259, footnote n, p. 300-302 (in extenso)
2CRANMER 1846 p. 402-404 (in extenso; English translation)
3GAIRDNER 1898 No. 4, p. 1 (English register)

 

Text & apparatus & commentaryPlain textText & commentaryText & apparatus

 

Rumorem de morte mea ad te, mi humanissime Cranmere, perlatum eo auctum cf. Thomas CRANMER to Ioannes DANTISCUS Lambeth, [1540]-06-20, CIDTC IDL 2325scribiscf. Thomas CRANMER to Ioannes DANTISCUS Lambeth, [1540]-06-20, CIDTC IDL 2325, quod a me intra triennium nullas acceperis. Hoc quidem non incurantia aut mutuae nostrae amicitiae oblivione contigit, verum ob similem de te rumorem, qui apud nos percrebuit, quem certe, amantissimus utpote tui, dolenter accepi, te, inquam, iussu Henry VIII Tudor (*1491 – †1547), 1509-1547 King of England; son of Henry VII Tudor and Elizabeth of Yorkregis tuiHenry VIII Tudor (*1491 – †1547), 1509-1547 King of England; son of Henry VII Tudor and Elizabeth of York, cum multis aliis bonis viris, praeter omnem aequitatem fuisse e vivis sublatum. Quo intime permotus, non secus atque tu meis, ita et ego tuis manibus aeternam non semel beatitudinem sum precatus. Qua de re, cum eiusmodi rumor, Deo gratia, utrique falsus evanuit, gaudendum nobis et ad pristinum benevolentiae officium et animo et scripto redeundum est. Tu tamen, ne te πυραύ <σ> του μόρος occupet, cum ea sint apud vos tempora, quae nulla prius in Europe (Europa), the communeorbis ChristianiEurope (Europa), the commune regione fuerunt umquam, caveas: plura adderem, nisi vererer has fraudi tibi futuras, si in alterius quam in tuas manus inciderent.

Quid apud vos agatur, gratius mihi fuisset scire a te, quam de iis, qui multa incerta pro certis nobis denuntiant. Tot scilicet bonorum ecclesiae di[reptiones] ... [quae modum et] numerum non habent, in utrumque promiscue sexum supplicia, quodque magis his omnes in admirationem ac detestationem inducit, tot coniugia totque contra omnes, tum humanas, tum etiam divinas leges repudia. Quae tamen, quamvis passim hic in vulgus sparsa, pro veris habentur, apud me adhuc sunt ambigua.

Nonnihil ad credendum me compellit, quod tu, cum sis et archiepiscopus, et Englandregni vestriEngland primas, ministrum ecclesiae tuae, longe alio quam prius nomine, te cf. Thomas CRANMER to Ioannes DANTISCUS Lambeth, [1540]-06-20, CIDTC IDL 2325, letter subscribed: Amicus tibi non minus etiam nunc quam olim animo coniunctissimus Thomas ecclesiae Cantuariensis ministersubscribiscf. Thomas CRANMER to Ioannes DANTISCUS Lambeth, [1540]-06-20, CIDTC IDL 2325, letter subscribed: Amicus tibi non minus etiam nunc quam olim animo coniunctissimus Thomas ecclesiae Cantuariensis minister. Ministri quidem sumus omnes, ecclesiarum qui sumus episcopi; hoc tamen titulo, quo Paul of Tarsus, Saint (*5-10 AD – †64-67 AD), the most important missionary and theologian of early Christianity, known as the Apostle of Nations, author of Letters, the main figure of the Acts of the ApostlesPaulusPaul of Tarsus, Saint (*5-10 AD – †64-67 AD), the most important missionary and theologian of early Christianity, known as the Apostle of Nations, author of Letters, the main figure of the Acts of the Apostles usus est, abuti non deberemus. Is etenim, qui speculatur, non est sine ministerio, , sua tamen ob id vocatione non privatur. Nos porro hic sub christianissimo pientissimoque Sigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of AustriaregeSigismund I Jagiellon (Zygmunt I) (*1467 – †1548), King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania (1506-1548); Duke of Głogów (Glogau) (1499-1506), Duke of Opava (1501-1506), Governor of Silesia (1504-1506); son of King Kazimierz IV Jagiellon and Elisabeth of Austria degentes, Favorinus of Arelate (*85 – †150), one of the most learned sophists of Hadrian’s eraPhouorini(!)Favorinus of Arelate (*85 – †150), one of the most learned sophists of Hadrian’s era apud Aulus Gellius (*ca. 130 – †after 180), Roman writer, author of "Noctes Atticae"GelliumAulus Gellius (*ca. 130 – †after 180), Roman writer, author of "Noctes Atticae" praecepto, cf. Gel. I 104 Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus utimur verbis praesentibus, et moribus vivimus antiquiscf. Gel. I 104 Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus , in quibus et vos olim non infelices inter alios mortales fuistis; adeo etiam, quemadmodum recens nosti, quod de insigni ad te coniugio scripserim, hoc si ad eum modum, ut cum Anne of Cleves (*1515 – †1557), Queen of England (1540-01-06 - 1540-07-09) as the fourth wife of Henry VIII Tudor; daughter of John III the Peaceful, Duke of Cleves, and Maria of Jülich-BergIuliacenseAnne of Cleves (*1515 – †1557), Queen of England (1540-01-06 - 1540-07-09) as the fourth wife of Henry VIII Tudor; daughter of John III the Peaceful, Duke of Cleves, and Maria of Jülich-Berg successisset, in quas me turbas non coniecissem? Eas a me Deus per suam misericordiam avertit.

Quem vero apud vos exitum hoc turbulentissimum cum tot commutatis Helenis malum, et haec tanta et tam impia diritas aliquando habebit, nemo sanae mentis non videt, quantumvis cf. V. Max. 1:3:26-28 lento enim gradu ad vindictam sui divina procedit ira tarditatemque supplicii gravitate pensat lento divina ira gradu procedatcf. V. Max. 1:3:26-28 lento enim gradu ad vindictam sui divina procedit ira tarditatemque supplicii gravitate pensat . Quam ut ab hac vestra praedivite EnglandInsulaEngland, quae mihi ob multam humanitatem in ea perceptam carissima est, et a vobis omnibus mihi carissimis, diutissime Dominus Deus contineat, immo numquam exerceat, impense oro; tantum abest, ut quicquam adversi imprecer.

Ceterum quod honorificis illis relictis titulis usu receptis adeo me mentis tuae gau[dium] ... [ma]g[na] gratia .... [Itaque(?)] magnas gratias habeo, quod Georgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80)puerumGeorgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80), quem Regensburg (Ratisbona), city in southeastern Germany, Bavaria, on the Danube riverRatisbonaeRegensburg (Ratisbona), city in southeastern Germany, Bavaria, on the Danube river ad Danube (Dunaj, Donau), river in central and eastern EuropeDanubiumDanube (Dunaj, Donau), river in central and eastern Europe in aula Charles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of CastilecaesarisCharles V of Habsburg (*1500 – †1558), ruler of the Burgundian territories (1506-1555), King of Spain as Charles I (1516-1556), King of Naples and Sicily, King of the Romans (1519-1530), Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation (elected 1519, crowned 1530, abdicated 1556); son of Philip I the Handsome and Joanna the Mad of Castile quondam famulatui tuo addixeram, adeo liberaliter educari commiseris. Georgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80)HuncGeorgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80) revera, cum tuis me verbis et litteris salutaret, a facie non minus, quam alium quempiam exoticum, a me numquam prius visum, noveram; fuitque eo mihi gratior, quod tua opera et adminiculo in adulescentem moribus et litteris non incultum excreverit; qui si institutum, quod coepit, prosequi non intermiserit, quod ad reliquum vitae tempus pertinebit, facile assequetur. Tibi vero iterum atque iterum gratias ago, quod Georgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80)illumGeorgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80), ad meam commendationem et nostrae inter nos amicitiae rationem, tam benigne et largiter tuo impendio in litterarum studiis exercitum foveris hucque ad me non sine viatico remiseris. Hinc clare liquet Athenaeus of Naucratis (fl. about the end of the 2nd and beginning of the 3rd century AD), Greek rhetorician and grammarianAthenaeumAthenaeus of Naucratis (fl. about the end of the 2nd and beginning of the 3rd century AD), Greek rhetorician and grammarian non recte sensisse amicos non esse, qui procul degunt ; cum tu, ab orbe nostro divisus, in hoc Georgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80)iuveneGeorgius Rogenellus Lithuanian, at least from 1534 scholar of Trinity Hall in Cambridge; ca. 1530 entered the service of Thomas Cranmer on Dantiscus' recommendation and came back to Poland after ca. 10 years (GAIRDNER 1883, p. 80), cuius parentes <non> nisi fama agnovi, mihi fueris officiosissimus.

Proinde ubi vicissim gratum tibi facere tibique aut tuis ex usu et re esse possum, propensissimam meam offero operam, qua in eventis periculosi huius temporis proque fortunarum et facul[t]atum mearum satis lauta, Deo gratia, condicione, libere atque tuto utere tibique persuade me tui esse assiduissime memorem. Itaque, si me amas, quod certo existimo, copiose de tuo ac rerum vestrarum statu rescribe. Id ipsum per mercatores Citizens of Gdańsk gentiles meosCitizens of Gdańsk , qui London (Londinium), city in England, on the Thames riverLondiniLondon (Londinium), city in England, on the Thames river agunt, commode quandocumque libuerit facies mihique mirum in modum gratificaberis.

Postscript:

... non potui mihi ab hoc appendiculo temperare, [quin(?)] item ad te cf. Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum Pio lectori before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 53;
Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 54
vitae meae cursumcf. Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum Pio lectori before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 53;
Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 54
, de quo saepe inter nos, quando una essemus, collocutio incidit, atque institutum prelis, me invito etiamnum et inscio, cf. Ioannes Dantiscus (Jan Dantyszek), Ioannis Dantisci episcopi Varmiensis Carmen paraeneticum, iuvenibus huius temporis non inutile, ad ingenuum adolescentem Constantem Alliopagum, Kraków, Hieronymus WIETOR, 1539 excussumcf. Ioannes Dantiscus (Jan Dantyszek), Ioannis Dantisci episcopi Varmiensis Carmen paraeneticum, iuvenibus huius temporis non inutile, ad ingenuum adolescentem Constantem Alliopagum, Kraków, Hieronymus WIETOR, 1539 mitterem. In cf. Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum Pio lectori before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 53;
Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 54
eocf. Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum Pio lectori before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 53;
Carmen paraeneticum ad Constantem Alliopagum before 1539-08-13, CIDTC IDP 54
vivum tibi tui Dantisci simulacrum seu iconisma depinxi; hocque ob id, ut et tu mihi, quam ducas vitam et si comparem, quemadmodum Paul of Tarsus, Saint (*5-10 AD – †64-67 AD), the most important missionary and theologian of early Christianity, known as the Apostle of Nations, author of Letters, the main figure of the Acts of the ApostlesPauloPaul of Tarsus, Saint (*5-10 AD – †64-67 AD), the most important missionary and theologian of early Christianity, known as the Apostle of Nations, author of Letters, the main figure of the Acts of the Apostles tribuitur, duxeris, significationem facias. Apud nos caelibatu et libero lectulo nihil est iucundius ac dulcius. Iocari libuit, haec enim scribens, visus sum mihi tecum vel in symposio, ut solebamus, vel in nave Danubiana, ad quam me comiter ex Regensburg (Ratisbona), city in southeastern Germany, Bavaria, on the Danube riverRatisbonaRegensburg (Ratisbona), city in southeastern Germany, Bavaria, on the Danube river superioribus annis comitasti abeuntem, confabulari. Quod pro iure veteris inter nos comparatae necessitudinis ne[cnon] familiaritatis boni te puto consulturum.